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		<title>By: Lucia Cosmopolitan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucia Cosmopolitan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 05:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fafa was born at 1979 and he is 27!</description>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
		<link>http://mexico.worldcupblog.org/1/rafa-has-date-with-history.html/comment-page-1#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 01:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, for those who read Spanish, this iwhat Jorge Campos, who played with Hugo and also had him as a coach, has to say about him:

Por Graciela Reséndiz
ESPNdeportes.com

MÉXICO, D.F. -- Está más que visto Jorge Campos seguirá protegiendo el entorno del técnico de la Selección Mexicana, Ricardo Lavolpe, en contra de quien se ponga enfrente. 

A un mes de que el Tri compita en el Mundial de Alemania, el popular &quot;Brody&quot; le da con todo a Hugo Sánchez, a sabiendas de que es el enemigo número uno de Lavolpe, diga o no diga nada en este momento. 

Él dice que habla a favor de la verdad. &quot;Ya se está sabiendo todo; ya todos conocen lo que pasó en el Mundial de Estados Unidos 94 con los cambios; Miguel -mejía Barón- lo dijo. Vamos a hablar claro, pues&quot;. 

Hace unos días, en un programa de televisión Mejía Barón afirmó que en aquel famoso partido México-Bulgaria, cuando el Tricolor quedó eliminado de EU-94, a Hugo lo quería habilitar como volante, por Benjamín Galindo, pero que el &quot;Pentapichichi&quot; no quiso. 

Por ello -dijo- optó por mantener el equipo que ya estaba en la cancha hasta el final, a sabiendas de que seguiría la tanda de penaltis, y en esta instancia no creyó pertinente considerar a Hugo. 

&quot;NO HACE GRUPO&quot; 
Aunque los &#039;disparos&#039; del ex Pentapichichi no vayan en contra suya, afirma: &quot;Hugo es un ídolo negativo&quot;. 

Dice que cuando el ex técnico de Pumas juega &quot;es un buen tipo, es positivo&quot;, pero que cuando está fuera de la cancha &quot;es negativo&quot;. 

Así aprecia Jorge a Hugo, quien fue su entrenador en Pumas, cuando la relación entre ambos era &#039;miel sobre hojuelas&#039;. 

&quot;No hace grupo. Él nada más ve por sus intereses personales. Nunca le ha interesado la Selección&quot;, fue contundente el acapulqueño, quien en su declive como jugador Hugo lo consideró el mejor segundo portero de México, y a Óscar el &quot;Conejo&quot; Pérez el primero. 

QUE LE DABA MIEDO TIRAR PENALES 
En su carrera, Hugo falló penaltis importante: uno en el partido México-Paraguay en el Mundial México 86 y uno más, pero éste sí muy importante, como jugador del Rayo Vallecano, pues por no haber aacertado esa pena máxima el equipo descendió a la Segunda División en la década de los noventa. 

Jorge Campos no se queda a la zaga y afirma: &quot;Hugo siempre tuvo miedo de tirar penales; eso lo pueden corroborar Raúl Servín, Rafael Amador, Tomás Boy -ex compañeros de Hugo en México 86-; pregúntenselo&quot;. 

Agrega el auxiliar de Lavolpe que Hugo tiene una imagen muy buena en el extranjero, porque triunfó en Europa, &quot;pero nunca pudo hacer nada con la Selección, quién sabe por qué. Con el Tri no logró nada&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, for those who read Spanish, this iwhat Jorge Campos, who played with Hugo and also had him as a coach, has to say about him:</p>
<p>Por Graciela Reséndiz<br />
ESPNdeportes.com</p>
<p>MÉXICO, D.F. &#8212; Está más que visto Jorge Campos seguirá protegiendo el entorno del técnico de la Selección Mexicana, Ricardo Lavolpe, en contra de quien se ponga enfrente. </p>
<p>A un mes de que el Tri compita en el Mundial de Alemania, el popular &#8220;Brody&#8221; le da con todo a Hugo Sánchez, a sabiendas de que es el enemigo número uno de Lavolpe, diga o no diga nada en este momento. </p>
<p>Él dice que habla a favor de la verdad. &#8220;Ya se está sabiendo todo; ya todos conocen lo que pasó en el Mundial de Estados Unidos 94 con los cambios; Miguel -mejía Barón- lo dijo. Vamos a hablar claro, pues&#8221;. </p>
<p>Hace unos días, en un programa de televisión Mejía Barón afirmó que en aquel famoso partido México-Bulgaria, cuando el Tricolor quedó eliminado de EU-94, a Hugo lo quería habilitar como volante, por Benjamín Galindo, pero que el &#8220;Pentapichichi&#8221; no quiso. </p>
<p>Por ello -dijo- optó por mantener el equipo que ya estaba en la cancha hasta el final, a sabiendas de que seguiría la tanda de penaltis, y en esta instancia no creyó pertinente considerar a Hugo. </p>
<p>&#8220;NO HACE GRUPO&#8221;<br />
Aunque los &#8216;disparos&#8217; del ex Pentapichichi no vayan en contra suya, afirma: &#8220;Hugo es un ídolo negativo&#8221;. </p>
<p>Dice que cuando el ex técnico de Pumas juega &#8220;es un buen tipo, es positivo&#8221;, pero que cuando está fuera de la cancha &#8220;es negativo&#8221;. </p>
<p>Así aprecia Jorge a Hugo, quien fue su entrenador en Pumas, cuando la relación entre ambos era &#8216;miel sobre hojuelas&#8217;. </p>
<p>&#8220;No hace grupo. Él nada más ve por sus intereses personales. Nunca le ha interesado la Selección&#8221;, fue contundente el acapulqueño, quien en su declive como jugador Hugo lo consideró el mejor segundo portero de México, y a Óscar el &#8220;Conejo&#8221; Pérez el primero. </p>
<p>QUE LE DABA MIEDO TIRAR PENALES<br />
En su carrera, Hugo falló penaltis importante: uno en el partido México-Paraguay en el Mundial México 86 y uno más, pero éste sí muy importante, como jugador del Rayo Vallecano, pues por no haber aacertado esa pena máxima el equipo descendió a la Segunda División en la década de los noventa. </p>
<p>Jorge Campos no se queda a la zaga y afirma: &#8220;Hugo siempre tuvo miedo de tirar penales; eso lo pueden corroborar Raúl Servín, Rafael Amador, Tomás Boy -ex compañeros de Hugo en México 86-; pregúntenselo&#8221;. </p>
<p>Agrega el auxiliar de Lavolpe que Hugo tiene una imagen muy buena en el extranjero, porque triunfó en Europa, &#8220;pero nunca pudo hacer nada con la Selección, quién sabe por qué. Con el Tri no logró nada&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Big-Baller-Shot-Caller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big-Baller-Shot-Caller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 01:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you that read spanish this is a short part of a recent article on &quot;Kikin&quot;, and his thoughts on mexico and mexican cultural social and mental constructs.

Quiere ‘Kikín’ Fonseca que México sea campeón

por: Agencia 
Fuente: NOTIMEX

Fonseca también recriminó que al Tricolor en algún momento lo calificaran como &quot;los ratones verdes&quot; por su desempeño en el terreno de juego y aseguró que todo eso ya cambió. 

&quot;Creo ya ha pasado mucho tiempo de que nosotros mismos nos menospreciemos, nosotros mismos a veces somos malinchistas, ahora eso ya ha cambiado, yo no soy así y mis compañeros piensan de la misma manera, creemos en nosotros mismos, podemos hacer grandes cosas&quot;, dijo. 

&quot;Kikín&quot; es de la idea de que si los propios ciudadanos de nuestro país no le tiene confianza a este grupo de jugadores que asegura darán lo mejor de si, entonces quién lo hará.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you that read spanish this is a short part of a recent article on &#8220;Kikin&#8221;, and his thoughts on mexico and mexican cultural social and mental constructs.</p>
<p>Quiere ‘Kikín’ Fonseca que México sea campeón</p>
<p>por: Agencia<br />
Fuente: NOTIMEX</p>
<p>Fonseca también recriminó que al Tricolor en algún momento lo calificaran como &#8220;los ratones verdes&#8221; por su desempeño en el terreno de juego y aseguró que todo eso ya cambió. </p>
<p>&#8220;Creo ya ha pasado mucho tiempo de que nosotros mismos nos menospreciemos, nosotros mismos a veces somos malinchistas, ahora eso ya ha cambiado, yo no soy así y mis compañeros piensan de la misma manera, creemos en nosotros mismos, podemos hacer grandes cosas&#8221;, dijo. </p>
<p>&#8220;Kikín&#8221; es de la idea de que si los propios ciudadanos de nuestro país no le tiene confianza a este grupo de jugadores que asegura darán lo mejor de si, entonces quién lo hará.</p>
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		<title>By: Big-Baller-Shot-Caller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big-Baller-Shot-Caller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word was used in the appropriate context.</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rene is right. The term you might be looking for is cangrejo, you know the jaiba theory.  And please let us not use cangrejo or malinche on this site ever again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rene is right. The term you might be looking for is cangrejo, you know the jaiba theory.  And please let us not use cangrejo or malinche on this site ever again.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are using the word Malinchismo incorrectly. Malinchismo means prefering somthing foreign istead of something national. Not being a fan of Hugo and questioning his so-called greatness does not make me a malinchista.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are using the word Malinchismo incorrectly. Malinchismo means prefering somthing foreign istead of something national. Not being a fan of Hugo and questioning his so-called greatness does not make me a malinchista.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to offer some other instances where Hugo did help the National team.  

1993 - Canada-- Hugo socres the game winner to propel Mexico into the world cup for the first time in 8 years.

1993 - Ecuador -- Hugo&#039;s goal helps defeat Ecuador 2-0 in the semi finals of the  first copa america appearance for Mexico. 

I still smarts that the femexfut were dumb enough to get Mexico expelled from the 1990 world cup.  It would have been Hugo&#039;s finest hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to offer some other instances where Hugo did help the National team.  </p>
<p>1993 &#8211; Canada&#8211; Hugo socres the game winner to propel Mexico into the world cup for the first time in 8 years.</p>
<p>1993 &#8211; Ecuador &#8212; Hugo&#8217;s goal helps defeat Ecuador 2-0 in the semi finals of the  first copa america appearance for Mexico. </p>
<p>I still smarts that the femexfut were dumb enough to get Mexico expelled from the 1990 world cup.  It would have been Hugo&#8217;s finest hour.</p>
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		<title>By: Big-Baller-Shot-Caller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big-Baller-Shot-Caller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;ve ever spent time in europe, the only respected and known mexican player until Rafa el &quot;Zamorano Michoacano&quot; as they call him, has been and is Hugo. End of story. Need proof, in germany this summer, ask people.

Your not alone pal, mexico is full of &quot;haters&quot;. In fact, while you may not be one of them, there are many haters right now minimizing Rafa&#039;s accomplishments, saying he only plays defense; and happpens to play on the best team with the best players in the world and, then there is this tidbit: 

people say he has never done anything with the national team, and has sabotaged them more than helped them with his ejections and injuries. Unbelievable, but true, there are many haters in mexican culture. 

Malinchismo hard at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve ever spent time in europe, the only respected and known mexican player until Rafa el &#8220;Zamorano Michoacano&#8221; as they call him, has been and is Hugo. End of story. Need proof, in germany this summer, ask people.</p>
<p>Your not alone pal, mexico is full of &#8220;haters&#8221;. In fact, while you may not be one of them, there are many haters right now minimizing Rafa&#8217;s accomplishments, saying he only plays defense; and happpens to play on the best team with the best players in the world and, then there is this tidbit: </p>
<p>people say he has never done anything with the national team, and has sabotaged them more than helped them with his ejections and injuries. Unbelievable, but true, there are many haters in mexican culture. </p>
<p>Malinchismo hard at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you kidding me?

There was a good chunk of the fandom and newspapers in England that were hounding Gazza between 1994 and 1998. I don&#039;t know where you get your information but I know for a fact that many people cheered the decision taken by Glen Hoddle to not take him for the 1998 World Cup and take a chance on a then unknown teen called Michael Owen instead.

And again... Gazza was a big piece of the puzzle in that Semi-final appearance of England in 1990. Hugo just had one goal.

You fail to see the point: I knock Hugo down because he would let Mexico down when it mattered, and then blamed others for it, not because he was a wonderful striker with Real Madrid.

Marquez, whenever he did something silly, like getting himself sent off after knocking down Coby Jones, at least had the cojonoes to admit he was at fault, and never blamed the lack of spirit and concentration the WHOLE team had that day. That would be something Hugo would say.

If the person was Blanco for example, I would cheer for him even if he has a very questionable past, just because when it has mattered, the guy has delivered. He was the reason why Mexico made it to the 2002 WC and he was the main reason we won the Confederations Cup in 1999 (he was the top scorer alongside Ronaldinho).

To me, the greatness of a football player comes with their achievements both with the club AND their national team. Hugo was not that great. He was spectacular maybe, but not THAT good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding me?</p>
<p>There was a good chunk of the fandom and newspapers in England that were hounding Gazza between 1994 and 1998. I don&#8217;t know where you get your information but I know for a fact that many people cheered the decision taken by Glen Hoddle to not take him for the 1998 World Cup and take a chance on a then unknown teen called Michael Owen instead.</p>
<p>And again&#8230; Gazza was a big piece of the puzzle in that Semi-final appearance of England in 1990. Hugo just had one goal.</p>
<p>You fail to see the point: I knock Hugo down because he would let Mexico down when it mattered, and then blamed others for it, not because he was a wonderful striker with Real Madrid.</p>
<p>Marquez, whenever he did something silly, like getting himself sent off after knocking down Coby Jones, at least had the cojonoes to admit he was at fault, and never blamed the lack of spirit and concentration the WHOLE team had that day. That would be something Hugo would say.</p>
<p>If the person was Blanco for example, I would cheer for him even if he has a very questionable past, just because when it has mattered, the guy has delivered. He was the reason why Mexico made it to the 2002 WC and he was the main reason we won the Confederations Cup in 1999 (he was the top scorer alongside Ronaldinho).</p>
<p>To me, the greatness of a football player comes with their achievements both with the club AND their national team. Hugo was not that great. He was spectacular maybe, but not THAT good.</p>
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		<title>By: Big-Baller-Shot-Caller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big-Baller-Shot-Caller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You still do not address why mexican culture relishes knocking down their own. The english worship Shearer and Gazza. For some odd reason, it is mexican insecurity to cry and claim he did not do this and did not do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You still do not address why mexican culture relishes knocking down their own. The english worship Shearer and Gazza. For some odd reason, it is mexican insecurity to cry and claim he did not do this and did not do that.</p>
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