A week without seleccionados

It is funny, but in all honesty I didn’t see any of the teams you mentioned have much of a problem adjusting to NOT having their national team players.

Chivas played a very even match most of the game. Talavera killed them by having some really poor judgement in 2 of the goals, but that guy has shown before he can sub for Oswaldo, he just needs to get in some sort of rythm. The irony of it all is that Bofo, who keeps saying he should have been in that final list, showed why he was not chosen, by trying to showboat instead of doing his job. He cost the team at least if not 2 goals.

As far as America goes, they didn’t seem lost in the field. In fact it was their strikers (all of them first teamers to begin with) who failed several times. In fact, Bernal was in my opinion the man of the match in that game, by stopping at least 3 shots that were almost goals, and 2 more hit the woodwork.

The one thing I found interesting in that game was the debut of a youngster in America’s side that looks promising: Fernando Julien. He seems to be the type of winger/striker you guys like: strong, tall and fast. He also seems to know how to use his feet, showing some nimble footwork and the attitude to use it to dribble adversaries. Only time will tell on this guy, but my gut feeling tells me we will see him doing important things in the future.

The way I see it, this is a great opportunity for teams to find new talent. I think that if Mexico does a good job in the World Cup, several of their players will not return anyway.

Rene:

That’s exactly what I was thinking yesterday. The teams should be ready to miss their players.

I mean I can asure you even if Mexico only gets to the second round. Prepare yourself to not see Salcido, Osorio, Oswaldo, Perez, Sinha in Mexican teams anymore.

Kikin is a 50/50 chance, Pavel, Morales, and other players are kind of old, so they’ll come back.

Still, I also think its a great time not only to find young talent, but the replacement talent of the parted 23.

I know Mexico pays well, that’s the main reason why we have our top players in Mexico. But they have to think in their future, I mean the first 3 players on the list where Franco, Borguetti and Marquez, why? because they play in Europe. I mean don’t get me wrong, but you’ll see Salcido and probably Osorio be better defenders than Marquez, and Kikin and Bravo being as good as Franco and Borguetti.

In 4 years the sub 17 world champion team will have a lot of their players in South Africa 2010, if the soon to be old Germany 06 team wants to be in the next world cup, they have to go to europe its kind of easy.

John:

Thanks for the smile I have on my face right now. I love how Aguirre is coaching, how franco is playing, how UNAM replyied to your post. lol.

Do you know what’s a posibility right now? BLANCO WINING IT ALL

Posted from  Mexico

Another thing you have to keep in mind when talking about the sub-17 team: several of them are already playing in Europe (Dos Santos, Vela and someone else from Pumas whose name eludes me at this moment), and 3 or 4 of them are in the regular rotation with the first teamers (Villaluz in Cruz Azul, Ever Guzman in Morelia, Patricio Araujo in Chivas and again, one guy from Pumas whose name also eludes me). Also, the younger brother of Giovanni Dos Santos has already joined the sub-17, he also plays for Barcelona and according to Zizinho (their father) is an even better player than Giovanni, and plays the always important creative midfield position.

The future for Mexico looks really really bright, and I think 2010 and 2014 look like the best choices for Mexico to leave a mark in Soccer history.

I hope Mexico can make a big enough impression to generate a demand for their players. One thing that does bug me are the hefty transfer fees Mexican clubs charge European teams. One example is Andres Guardado; Italian clubs have contacted Atlas in regard to him. Atlas would demand an $8MM transfer fee, but not nearly as much if America comes calling.

The Other player with Barcelona is Efrain Juarez Valdez

Posted from  United States

8 MM that’s crazy. That’s crazy.

We need to export our players, its a shame Drogba, Toure, Edmilson, Santa Cruz, Geremi, Pizarro, Cordoba (Inter), Olivera (Juve), and a lot of other ok not european players making history, dollars and puting their country’s name up in the air. I mean imagine if Cuauhtemoc has played in Europe 4 years ago, or if Salcido or Osorio where in Italian teams.

Go Export!!

Posted from  Mexico

Looks like Mexico dropped the ball on Giovani Dos Santos and his brother Jonathon. They announced their disdain for the treatment given to them by the Femexfut.

They announced as a family to never play for Mexico again at the youth level and maybe the senior level. Both are eligible to play for Spanish and Brazilian senior teams.

They are outraged that Jonathon was cut from the squad at the last minute in a Spanish airport and made to return equipment and take his national team warm-up off in front of everybody. After flying to Mexico and training then flying back over to Spain with the team.

And Gio was never paid his bonuses from winning Mexico’s first world championship at any level. He also said, they book his flights at the last minute and he has to track them down and beg them for information. They said enough is enough.

Posted from  United States

WHere did you read that information? I scan the sports columns in Mexico (esto, ovaciones, record, etc) every day and I have not read about it.

Even if what you are saying is true, as far as Giovani goes, he is out of luck. Once you play a formal competition for a country, you are not allow to jump ship and play for another one.

Plus, I know that Jesus Ramirez would be a goodwill ambassador and would help ease tensions if that were to be true.

I read the information. It is premature to say anything about it. I know that there will be a lot of angry people demanding to the Femexfut to clear the air. I think this is one of those things that once these guys get to talk, they will be resolved.

How many players have you seen saying they will not return to the national team and later on return? I think this is more of a way for Zizinho to pressure the people at femexfut to think things better.
Plus, if you think about it, which team gives you the best chance to make you a first teamer? Mexico or Brazil?

I’m moderately concerned, but I think this can be resolved.

Good points. Remember they are both eligible to play for Spain and most likely they have people making them promises.

Gio is eligible to play for both Spain and Brazil. Once you play for the senior team you are not eligible to play for another team, just because you play for the youth team does not mean you cannot play for another nation.

Jesus Ramirez has his biggest test yet.

Posted from  United States

Maybe, but even in Spain they are most likely to be “just another one in the bunch” while in Mexico they would be treated like royalty, since the country seldom produce players of that skill level.

Just in sponsorships alone, my gut feeling tells me they would earn more in Mexico that they would in Spain.

And again, Gio’s comments leave the door open to return to the national team, and it seems the higher ups in Femexfut were completely unaware of this situation. It sounds to me as one of those cases where a low level administrtor tried to play the big cheese role and failed miserably. Again, I think once the high hierarchy at Femexfut talk to Zizinho, everything will go back to normal.

Another thing to keep in mind though: as an organization, you can’t let a temper tantrum dictate your reactions, otherwise you are setting a precedent that other players will follow in the future. I don’t care how big a name he has or the level of talent. NO ONE should be above the group.

Sorry for double posting:

Another thing to keep in mind: Chucho Ramirez decided not to let Jonathan play because he was carrying a nagging muscle injury that didn’t allow him to play at the same intensity than his teammates during the time that they were preparing for the tournament. So it was not CHucho deciding last minute he didn’t want the guy. It was a last minute decision only because he was waiting to see if Jonathan responded to physiotherapy. Chucho also stated he was planning to call him for the final meetings before the tournament anyway.

One thing that I was proud to read from Chucho Ramirez is that he pretty much said: “you will always be welcomed if you want to come, but if you are not here, we will just select another player.” That is the attitude that should prevail here. We should not let an oversensitive parent dictate what an entire team does.

I was in the Rio Grande Valley (I’m melting!) today, and I got to listen to Fernando Schwarz’ radio show. He did not even mention one word of this “scandal.”. I almost think the author of the article that was posted in ESPNDeportes was drawing his own conclusions in regard to what happened. Either way, it looks to be a big misunderstanding and I’m sure all it will take to clear up the mess is a phone call. I hope. Tune in tomorrow.

Posted from  Canada

YOu know, I was thinking the same thing. I have periodically gone through places like esmas.com and aztecadeportes since they do refresh information within hours, and there is no mention in there either.

Either the story is wild speculations, or the people from Femexfut called the Dos Santos family and asked them not to talk to the press while they cleared the air.

This type of news should be all over the place by now.